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Joe P
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Thanks for a wonderful resource-great job--I am also interested in the Etruscans-was there much interaction between the Spartans and the Etruscans-do we have any sources for this ?
24 August 2010 - New Jersey-USA
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Joe,
Thank you. I can well understand your interest in the Etruscans; I think they deserve much more attention/research etc. As to any particular interaction with the Spartans, I have not come across any source that refers to this - which doesn't mean there was none. We know Sparta maintained extensive diplomatic ties and traded "worldwide" in the 6th Century BC, so it is reasonable to assume, since Sparta had a colony in what is now Southern Italy at Taranta, that there was at least some superficial contact. But more I cannot say. If you find out anything, I'd be interested in hearing. Helena |
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Corinne
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Some truth, at last.
You hear a bit too much about Sparta fostering male homosexuals, which simply cannot be true. Sparta was accused of widespread homosexuality by its enemies, mainly Athens.
Despite the nowadays extant opinion, homosexuality was frowned upon everywhere in Greece, so the enemy always was "the faggot" (sorry about the word).
In Athens and Thebes, pederasty (in fact, mere child abuse) was unfortunately the rule, but boys, somewhere around age 16, were supposed to switch to women, marry and never go back to men. Only, sadly, they could abuse, in turn, young boys who were under their supervision and had no way of escaping being abused.
The best book so far about this issue is "Greek Homosexuality" by K.J. Dover.
Of course, as human nature dictates, these abused Greek boys turned to misoginy - a common symptom of male child sexual abuse. That explains the dreadful status of Athenian women.
The position of women in Sparta totally contradicts any homosexuality or boy sexual abuse in Sparta. Any psychologist will tell you it simply does not hold water.
An extremely good analysis of boys sexual abuse in ancient Greece and its repercussions, for those who might like to understand more on the issue - I can't copy/paste the url here, but it's easy to find - is "Socrates and I", by Enid Bloch.
9 May 2010 - France
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Corinne,
Thank you so much for this contribution, above all the tip about K.J. Dover's book and Enid Block's website. Helena P. Schrader |
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Stew
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I found your pages interesting, and gave a lot of information for a website on this subject, but i think you need more quotes or sources.
3 May 2010
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Stew,
Thank you for your suggestion. I am an academic and I find myself wanting to put in footnotes and explain why I chose one interpretation over another. My friends and editor and webmaster are always stopping me. and other readers stop me! This site was not conceived as a site for fellow academics, but as an entry point for people with very superficial knowledge of the topic. Hopefully, people who are intrigued by what I say will start to do their own research. So, while I will resist the temptation to footnote each assertion, I think you are right that I need to add more sources. I will try to ensure this happens on the next update. Again, thank you for the good suggestion. Helena |
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Son of Sparta
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Good site! Thanks it ranks highly in my list of site with good historical accuracy! Thank you
23 April 2010 - Omaha, Nebraska
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Jayde
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 aha, i think the sites okaaaay . not the best ?
21 April 2010 - Canada
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Janine
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Whoa!!! This site was amazing, fantastic, mind blowing!Very informational. I was suprised how sophisticated Spartan society was, considering my history teachers have made it sound like Athens was the "Enlightened" city while Sparta was just a city full of jocks/players. Women had TONS more rights than the Athenian women did.Anyway, thanks for the info; it helped my research paper alot and answered a whole bunch of questions. 
18 March 2010 - America
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Ej
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lol :) 
8 March 2010
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jonathan
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You are misrepresenting the facts, and only the ones you want, look further, homosexuality was common and the norm for Sparta.
4 March 2010 - Louisiana
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No one today knows with any certainty how widespead homosexuality was in ancient Sparta. The evidence is too fragmentary, indirect, and corrupted. Furthermore, the acceptance of homosexuality probably varied over time - just as it has in the U.S., Western Europe or the Middle East. I have good eveidence that - at least in the archaic and early classical period - homosexuality was frowned upon if not sanctioned and certainly much less common than in other Greek cities. That's what contemporary sources with the first hand experience with Sparta attest. In short, I've done my research and listed my key sources. What are yours and how are they superior? Are they contemporary? Are they Spartan? Not possible. Contemporary Spartan sources do not exist. I suggest you look further and try to keep an open mind. Helena |
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me
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this was soo helpful for mii poster thanx;]
3 March 2010
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Aimee
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This site was very inforamtional
and helpful for my paper.
Thank you!! 
8 December 2009 - Tennessee, US
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CHLOZZA
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i thought this site was extremely useful.to see how people in sparta lived especially the women was great to finish my horrible assignment on sparta.im offering anyone the chance to complete it for me by the way.its so yuck.but yes ily sparta reconsidered
17 November 2009 - Australia
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ashley l.
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thankyou for this site, it helped me a lot on my sparta essay, but you need to include their good qualities  ; other than that it was great :] i made a good grade on my paper thanks to you. 
19 October 2009 - WV
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Shaddiq
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This is one of the best sites about of Spartans.Love it!!! Keep it up!!
18 September 2009
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